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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: Is dialing out at 56k possible? Reply with quote Back to top

I'm considering switching over to Vonage but I have one concern. For my job I occassionally have to use a laptop to dial into our system. Unfortunately the system only allows you to log in using a 56k connection, so I have to use my land line instead of my cable modem.

I want to use Vonage to replace my land line but I first have to know that I'll still be able to log into work from home. Is there a reliable way to slow down my modem so that I can still do this?

If there's a FAQ that covers this, please point me in the right direction. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I've got a cable modem, so I'm pretty sure Vonage will work with my system at home. My concern is being able to log into work without a land line, since the system requires that you use dialup.

I would use Vonage for residential service, not business.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It works fine on my computer. I can also send faxes via the Windows XP fax program. Instead of dialup, go talk to your network administratrors at work and see if they offer VPN connections to your network. This will give you broadband speeds and give them the security they are looking for.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I connect at 14.4k and often get dropped. I signed up for GoToMyPC and get access to the office PC that way.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Chase... funny most seem to have mis-interpreted your question or just no answered it.

You want to know if you can your your Vonage phone line to connect to a computer modem and dial out at 56K, right? You've got broadband, but your office demands a dial up connection.

OK.. well, I don't know for sure, but it is unlikely based on the experience many users have had with faxing. I can fax out fine at 14.4, but others have had to throttle their connection speeds down to as slow at 9600 to avoid dropped calls. Your top speed might be as high at 36K, but 56??? I'm kind of surprised your office demands at 56K connection because they are often unstable even on a POTS line and frequently during the handshake phase, the modem will connect at a slower speed anyway.

I'd veryfy that last part with your company IT people. YOu might be OK at 19K or higher , but 56K is probably a reach. Too much noise and loss of fidelity during the analog to digital to analog conversion processes (processes which have been optimized for voice, not data, connections.)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I've not had much luck using Vonage to dial up other computers using dial up networking, PC Anywhere or sending faxes.

It connects but within a short period of time, the call is dropped.

Keep in mind that there are a lot of variables to consider. I've been working with Vonage on other issues most have been resolved with firmware updates.

Currently if the MTA is in front of the router, I cannot VPN into work. My solution was to get a different router. D-Link and Linksys work. Netgear does not.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

has there been any update on this? or any further progress or experiences?

i also have a situation where i need to use a dialup service, modem on my laptop, to dial into certain computers.

anyone have any tips or methods they use or is it still next to impossible?

my experience so far without tweaking anything has been that the modem dials my ISP but then just endlessly tries to complete the connection until it finally times out.

no problms with my panasonic fax machine though..

thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm going to clear this up for you and anyone else reading!

THERE IS NO 56K MODEM CONNECTION!!!


PERIOD END OF STORY!!!!!

If you modem reports PORT rate then that's the port rate - computer to computer port. If it reports the ACTUAL connect rate, it will report just that - an accurate rate.

Now - why is there NOT a 56K connection? Simply. POTS doesn't support it. Never has and never will.. The max allowed is 53K over any POTS in the US. LAW! Check the FCC, ITUT etc.

So... if you COULD use your Vonage line to make a mode connection, the other end would limit you to MAX of 53K, your digital end would be clean and allow you to acheive a 56K connection.
Digital to digital could possibly get a true 56K connection, but then again most people wouldn't be using a modem if they had a digital connection.

VPN - why would a net admin NOT support VPN? Either hardware or tech knowledge. I'd say knowledge. Setting up a RAS server is easy, but setting up a VPN auth server is a different animal but nonetheless a task worth undertaking.


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Chase... funny most seem to have mis-interpreted your question or just no answered it.

You want to know if you can your your Vonage phone line to connect to a computer modem and dial out at 56K, right? You've got broadband, but your office demands a dial up connection.

OK.. well, I don't know for sure, but it is unlikely based on the experience many users have had with faxing. I can fax out fine at 14.4, but others have had to throttle their connection speeds down to as slow at 9600 to avoid dropped calls. Your top speed might be as high at 36K, but 56??? I'm kind of surprised your office demands at 56K connection because they are often unstable even on a POTS line and frequently during the handshake phase, the modem will connect at a slower speed anyway.

I'd veryfy that last part with your company IT people. YOu might be OK at 19K or higher , but 56K is probably a reach. Too much noise and loss of fidelity during the analog to digital to analog conversion processes (processes which have been optimized for voice, not data, connections.)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

lol - its funny when ppl completely ignore the question.

my question again was, is there a successful method of "dialing" out to a dialup isp connection over a Vonage line? is it hit or miss or not possible?

theres only one person that offered an answer about the speed not being proper or too fast, (?) but other than that i dont see any other answers to that simple question.

any tweaks, tips or definitive answers appreciated. thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

vonmagick wrote:
lol - its funny when ppl completely ignore the question.

my question again was, is there a successful method of "dialing" out to a dialup isp connection over a Vonage line? is it hit or miss or not possible?

theres only one person that offered an answer about the speed not being proper or too fast, (?) but other than that i dont see any other answers to that simple question.

any tweaks, tips or definitive answers appreciated. thanks


Tell you what.. I'm going to find out the answer right now.

I've been wondering the same thing since I hooked up my Vonage stuff 4 days ago.

I'm going to install OAL on my laptop and hook it up to my Vonage telephone line.

This should be interesting.
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