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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:58 pm    Post subject: Is it always so bad? Reply with quote Back to top

I don't have my equipment yet so I thought that I play around with forwarding, etc.

I have my Vonage number set to transfer to my POTS line.

I had my wife call me to test it out. While it worked I felt like I was talking on a Sat phone. The latency was horrific.

As a test we did the following:

One person would count slowly and in beats to 10. The other person would join in and say the numbers with the counter. We each took turns being the counter. I was amazed at how much lag there was. I was aslo amazed at how much life it took out of the conversation.

Is this a double gateway issue?

Does this get better when it's the actual equipment?

Yikes!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I had AT&T's CLEC service on QWEST lines....all I can tell you is my Vonage service on a bad day ='s my AT&T service (which is now disconnected)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I've never noticed any latency in over two months of using the servce.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Excellent Test Situation
The test you did, each person counting slowly for 1 to 10 simultenously is designed to how good the full-duplex mode is working. This BTW is a great test to see how good a speakerphone is.

Latency
If you make a Vonage call to a user in the same room, the latency become quite obvious. In fact, all telephone system have some degree of latency (meaning a lag from the time the spoken word reaches the other side).

Voip systems actually introduce controlled latency in the form of a jitter buffer to ensure they have all of the voice samples before sending them to the speaker. Wouldn't you rather have good voice quality (with a bit of lag) rather than poor voice quality (but real time).

Humans don't think that fast and in fact most telephone conversations have huge % of time where no one is speaking (pauses, between words). As a result latency or delay, isn't preceivable to most of us until it passes about 250 ms (or 1/4 of a second). A normal telephone call though has latency of typically 60-90 ms.

So the short answer is that Voip does introduce latency/delay and unless you're in the same room with the calling party for the most part you won't notice until it gets out on the edge of time.[/b]
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

My experience was that it was CERTAINLY noticable in forward mode. The conversation lost all zip.

If others run this test, what do they find? I was seconds behind.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have not tried forwarding my Vonage line to a conventinal phone, but I can report on a normal Vonage phone conversation.

There is certainly a delay, but nothing like "seconds behind". I think it would be measured in milliseconds...probably a little less lag than with my Sprint PCS phone.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have been using Vonage for several months. I use the forward features everyday when I am out of my office and the calls zip right through to my cell and no one knows the difference as far as I can tell.

I once tested Vonage in much the same way when I first got it. I noticed delay when in the same room with someone but this is true with even my POTS line in my house.

Give it a try when you get your equipment and I think that you will see how good the service can work.

Good luck and remember that there is a ton of help on this forum for you.
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