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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

takabanana wrote:
By the way, so with this configuration I have (read above), will Vonage still have access to the WRT54GP2, or do I need to port forward (on the WRT54G) specific ports for them to be able to "see" and get to it, for tech support (firmware updates and the "special" Voice menu that no one knows the password to)?

Also, any hints/suggestions on how to configure the WRT54G (with DD-WRT v23) and/or the WRT54GP2 to have the best QoS settings for Vonage voice quality?

Thanks in advance.


I don't think there would be a functional difference in either port forwarding or QoS. The WRT54GP2 is still on the LAN of the WRT54G, albeit in a slightly convoluted fashion. It should be OK.

You can always call a Vonage rep and see if they can see your WRT54GP2.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:35 pm    Post subject: WRT54GS Routing to a RTP300 Reply with quote Back to top

I tried the setup you listed as #3. It worked, but drove me nuts that you had to loop the LAN back into the WAN connection. I reverted back to the first "ideal" set up and toyed around with the routes in the Advanced Routing tab. Here are the settings I used below in order to not have to use option #3.

RTP300 Settings

----- Setup ---> Basic Setup -----

WAN Interface
Static IP : 192.168.1.115
Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.1.1


LAN Interface
Local IP : 192.168.15.1 (Default)
DHCP : Enabled
DNS Proxy : Enabled

----- Setup ---> Advanced Routing -----

Firewall & NAT : Disabled
Dynamic Routing : Enabled - RIP v2


----- Access Restrictions -----
Block WAN Requests : Disabled
-- Both options --


WRT54GS Settings
** I am using Sveasoft's Talisman 1.1 build on this device **

----- Setup ---> Basic Setup -----

WAN Interface
IP : Obtain Automatically


LAN Interface
Local IP : 192.168.1.1 (Default)
DHCP : Enabled


I set up a Static Route back to the 192.168.15.X subnet in
Setup ---> Advanced Routing

Destination LAN IP Subnet Mask Gateway Interface

192.168.15.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.115 Internet



Once I set this route up I was able to access the 192.168.15.x subnet from the 192.168.1.x. If this does not make sense I apologize. I am going to use the forum n00b excuse. Razz

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

NateHoy wrote:
OK. First problem with #3. Having trouble getting into the router config page using the remote administration address. Vonage phone line still working. Web/VPN access from either switch is still working. But I cannot drill through to the Vonage router from the switches. This has happened twice after running for a little while, and a reboot of the Vonage router clears it up, but still...


Setting the IP address of the Vonage router to an address within the subnet of my LAN (192.168.1.230) actually allows me to access the Vonage router from the LAN side as opposed to the WAN side. So I'm actually accessing the Vonage router from both interfaces and getting to the administration pages.

This is some really interesting behavior.

Oops. Just got an error from the WRTP54G that LAN and WAN are sharing the same domain, and nothing's working right. So you definitely don't want to change the WRTP54G to have an address within your subnet mask range. The WRTP54G/WAN and WRTP54G/LAN need to be strictly cordoned off.

Fascinating.


That's exactly why that config is a hack Lol. I really don't know why folks love it so much. Also, if you keep things routed (like your diagram #1) you get seven usable LAN ports, if you do #3, you have five. If you use #3 because you insist on having everything on the same network/subnet, then just use #1 and buy a switch for $25 and connect it to your front-end router.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: My situation is a little different. Reply with quote Back to top

I have Vonage at the office. My connection is thru 2 routers:

Cable Modem > Linksys BEFSR81 > RTP300.

Phone works fine. Problem is slow internet because I must connect computer to RTP300, the second router. The primary router serves other computers but I do not need to network with them.

What settings do I change in RTP300 ? So far I've disabled DHCP and NAT/FIREWALL and it makes no difference.

Please help!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: My situation is a little different. Reply with quote Back to top

EasyDialer wrote:
I have Vonage at the office. My connection is thru 2 routers:

Cable Modem > Linksys BEFSR81 > RTP300.

Phone works fine. Problem is slow internet because I must connect computer to RTP300, the second router. The primary router serves other computers but I do not need to network with them.

What settings do I change in RTP300 ? So far I've disabled DHCP and NAT/FIREWALL and it makes no difference.

Please help!


How do you physically have the RTP300 connected to the BEFSR81? Your speed should not be affected at all if everything is setup properly.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The RTP300 is connected to the primary router thru standard cable.

When I test the connection speed everything seems normal. About 4 down 2 up. Main problem is some web pages, especially with pictures, are very slow to load. Other computers, connected directly to the primary router work fine. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

EasyDialer wrote:
The RTP300 is connected to the primary router thru standard cable.

When I test the connection speed everything seems normal. About 4 down 2 up. Main problem is some web pages, especially with pictures, are very slow to load. Other computers, connected directly to the primary router work fine. Confused


Ok, so more specifically, is the WAN port of the RPT300 connected to a LAN port of the BEFSR81?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Exactly. Then the computer is connected to ethernet port 1 on the RTP300.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

EzCo wrote:
That's exactly why that config is a hack Lol. I really don't know why folks love it so much. Also, if you keep things routed (like your diagram #1) you get seven usable LAN ports, if you do #3, you have five. If you use #3 because you insist on having everything on the same network/subnet, then just use #1 and buy a switch for $25 and connect it to your front-end router.


That's actually my end recommendation, buy a cheap switch and don't use the one on the WRTP54G/RTP300. But I do switch over to the "hack" occasionally for experimentation on a new Linux machine I'm building out, because it's a temporary lashup until I figure out what I want to do permanently (but since I VNC into the machine, I need it on my primary subnet). Once I figure out how I want to permanently integrate this new machine, which is currently a motherboard sitting on a card table surrounded by components that look like a computer room threw up, I'll get the gear I need to make it so. (grin)

I don't recommend the "Option #3". It works, but not particularly well, and every fiber in my 18 years of experience in networking says "this is !@#$@# STUPID!" Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

EasyDialer wrote:
Exactly. Then the computer is connected to ethernet port 1 on the RTP300.


Ok, let's just check a few things since you have two Linksys routers. Did you change the network on either router? They're both probably defaulted at 192.168.1.0/24 (or 192.168.15.0/24 - I forget the default on Linksys). If you didn't do that, make sure you do that on one of them. Actually, just do it on the RPT300. Then turn DHCP and NAT/Firewall back on on the RTP300. See how you make out with that.

If that was the issue, we can make a few tweaks to that setup if you're interested.
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