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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject: Anyone have experience with SMCBR24Q QOS router? Reply with quote Back to top

I currently have two of the older linksys Vonage adapters and a bunch of PC's behind a Linksys BEFSR41 V1 router that I've had since 2001. Everything was working acceptably (needed resets once a month or so) until I upgraded the firmware on my linksys about two weeks ago. Since then, I've had garbled voice, and intermittent connection outages for a few minutes at least 3-4 times a day, where the cable modem seems to be working fine but I have no internet connection for a few minutes, or until I reset the router.

Everything connects to the BEFSR41 either directly or through switches and are on the same subnet. I don't have the option of putting the Vonage adapters first without doing a pretty serious rewiring job in the house.

I've tried a number of things since then, such as putting the old firmware back on the thing, putting the Vonage adapters one behind the other, giving the first one a static IP and putting it on the DMZ, but whatever I do I still get garbled voice. And the connection issues on the router haven't quit.

So I've basically given up and decided to look for a new router, with more features than the old BEFSR41.

After searching around I really like this SMCBR24Q router. I like SMC products in general, it has an SPI firewall, and QOS which could hopefully take care of my current voice quality issues.

However I haven't seen any reviews on this thing anywhere. Has anyone used this device with the Vonage service?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

well if no one's used it with Vonage, anyone have other recommendations on a good router to put in front of the linksys phone adapters?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The SMC Barricade routers need to have SPI and H.232 turned off in order for Voip adapters to work. The security features block the voice traffic thinking its a packet flood-type attack. This actually goes for most SPI firewalls. They either block the data (no audio) or delay the audio packets causing some to be dropped (choppy audio).

Just about any router should work. However, stay away from Belkin (total garbage). Not really a fan of D-Link either though. Personally I'm a fan of Linksys products because of the configuration options and if you want even more control, many of the WRT54G versions can have custom firmware loaded on them.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yep, can't go wrong with a Linksys WRT54G or GS, with one of the excellent 3rd party firmware releases. Many here use that router, and it works very well. Just make SURE you don't get the newest v5 router, as its been cheapened considerably, runs totally different (and new, buggy) firmware, and won't accept the 3rd party firmware. Get a v4 or earlier, or the new WRT54GL, which is really just the old v4 WRT54G with a new model designation. Should be able to get one for around $50.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm guessing my problems with the choppy audio come from the addition of SPI to the more recent linksys firmware upgrades for the BEFSR41? Maybe I didn't go back far enough with the firmware "down"grade, although to be honest it would be nice to have a SPI firewall AND Vonage both working...

If I get a WRT54G (although I don't need wireless), have the SPI firewall turned on, and have the two Vonage adapters behind it, wouldn't that still give me choppy audio? Or do the third party firmware releases allow you to have SPI turned on with Voip working well behind it?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

cactus wrote:

If I get a WRT54G, have the SPI firewall turned on, and have the two Vonage adapters behind it, wouldn't that still give me choppy audio? Or do the third party firmware releases allow you to have SPI turned on with Voip working well behind it?


I have a very similar setup to DallasFlier (as you can see below). I can't speak to having TWO Vonage devices behind a WRT54G, but I have a WRT54G V4 running HyperWRT Tofu third party firmware, and I have the SPI firewall and QoS both enabled, and my audio is generally flawless.

Here's what I have running (my bandwidth is clamped at 256k up):

- One desktop, running BitTorrent continuously and connected to 4 Instant Messenger servers, BitTorrent TCP/IP ports all set to LOW on my WRT54G.
- One laptop, running 2 simultaneous HTTPS VPN connections, and seven Instant Messenger connections (5 out to the 'net, one SameTime each to the two VPN connections), including occasional desktop-sharing sessions while talking on Vonage line. Set to MEDIUM on my WRT54G.
- One ReplayTV doing updates every few hours (minor bandwidth). Set to MEDIUM on my WRT54G.
- One Vonage WRTP54G, set to "HIGH" QoS priority on my WRT54G.

So far, my experience has been:
- Until QoS was tuned properly, intermittent complaints of choppy audio and "metallic sounding voice" on other end. Once QoS got tuned out properly, now clear audio both ways.
- When I pick up my Vonage line, BitTorrent client slows way down. But the Vonage line works, and I can still surf the Web and do other things on all my clients.
- Occasionally, my desktop sharing will slow down when I'm on the phone with Vonage. However, this is sorta to be expected with my 256k clamp.
- IM clients can run for days at a time with few to no reconnects needed. VPN connection has never failed.

Current uptime on my router: 21 Days, 22+ Hours

I do have the benefit of a most excellent ISP (SusCom). Despite the low upload clamp, which is frustrating and I cannot purchase my way out of it, they have provided solid, reliable, low-jitter/low-latency service. The router allows me to take full advantage of the limited upload resources at my disposal, though, and I have no complaints.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

thank you for that informative post. i think i will purchase one of those guys.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

One major caution. If you get the WRT54G, make DARNED SURE you don't get one with a serial number starting in CDFB. That's the new castrated "V5" hardware that runs VXWORKS and cannot take aftermarket firmware upgrades.

If you can't find an older one, or you want to order one via mailorder, spend the extra money and get a WRT54GL or WRT54GS.

www.linksysinfo.org and www.hyperwrt.org are excellent resources to get you started. Danger: learning curve ahead. But it's worth the drive. At least it was for me.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

thanks again.

one question i had, which i looked around for and didn't really get a solid answer...if i went with the WRT54GS, would you know if all the cool additions like VPN server, etc. in the modded versions of the firmware from linksysinfo would work with that one too?

planning ahead, I would love to have 1 device that had Wireless G + speedbooster (afterburner), SPI firewall, QOS (for vonage), and a VPN endpoint.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

cactus wrote:

thanks again.

one question i had, which i looked around for and didn't really get a solid answer...if i went with the WRT54GS, would you know if all the cool additions like VPN server, etc. in the modded versions of the firmware from linksysinfo would work with that one too?

planning ahead, I would love to have 1 device that had Wireless G + speedbooster (afterburner), SPI firewall, QOS (for vonage), and a VPN endpoint.


I don't have a VPN endpoint. However, here's the drill (in brief):

WRT54G V5: New, castrated router. Great consumer router, but only that. All the current Linksys issues, with no way to fix them.

WRT54GS V4 = WRT54G V4 = WRT54GL. Identical hardware. All 16MB RAM, 4 MB FLASH memory. All can be SpeedBooster (with HyperWRT Thibor) or optimized Internet without SpeedBooster (with HyperWRT Tofu). All will support DD-WRT and other distros, but 16MB RAM is limiting.

Older WRT54G: Same as above, hardware releases may be different but all but the oldest are virtually identical to the WRT54G V4 and will do most everything, except maybe SpeedBooster on some models.

Older WRT54GS: Same as above, with 32MB RAM and 8MB flash, so they can handle fancier firmwares.

If you want VPN services on the router, and if you can find one, I'd recommend the WRT54GS V3 or prior. But you can probably make a V4/GL work.

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