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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:29 pm    Post subject: vonage over 802.11/3.2ghz wireless Reply with quote Back to top

I have been using Vonage for about two months, apparently with no problem. I was surprised that it worked so well over my very remote wireless connection. In the last few days, my ISP has shut off my connection repeatedly, claiming that it was using a huge amount of bandwidth. We disconnected the various devices on my network and they say the bw draw ceases when I unplug my Vonage router. This is true even with the quality control set at 60mb.
This is a very remote area and wireless (or sattellite) is my only broadband option. I can go to a 5.8ghz radio, but I don't know if that would help.
Can anyone tell me how the system could use that much bandwidth?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: vonage over 802.11/3.2ghz wireless Reply with quote Back to top

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I have been using Vonage for about two months, apparently with no problem. I was surprised that it worked so well over my very remote wireless connection. In the last few days, my ISP has shut off my connection repeatedly, claiming that it was using a huge amount of bandwidth. We disconnected the various devices on my network and they say the bw draw ceases when I unplug my Vonage router. This is true even with the quality control set at 60mb.
This is a very remote area and wireless (or sattellite) is my only broadband option. I can go to a 5.8ghz radio, but I don't know if that would help.
Can anyone tell me how the system could use that much bandwidth?


1. What model of Vonage adapter?

2. What type of router?

3. When you plug the Vonage adapter into your router, does it show constant network activity, whether you are on the phone or not?

4. Is your router capable of logging connections or showing what connections are active?

5. How much bandwidth is your ISP calling "excessive"? Are they complaining even when you aren't using the Vonage line?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

60 mb? what?

The Vonage device uses one of three settings - 30, 50, and 90 kilobits per second. Even 90 is not what I would call excessive. Is your Vonage router wireless? Is anyone piggy backing off it possibly, or are you or someone else doing a lot of downloading and uploading on it? What kind of speeds are you paying for? If your ISP promises at least 128Kbps or more of upload speed, you should be able to use your service uninterrupted, albeit maybe on a lower codec setting.

Please provide more information about your ISP, and actual upload and download speeds, with QOS information. You can get this from http://speedtest.vonage.com
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

1. What model of Vonage adapter?
Linksys RTP300

2. What type of router?
Netgear RT311 Gateway Router to a 24 port switch

3. When you plug the Vonage adapter into your router, does it show constant network activity, whether you are on the phone or not?
yes

4. Is your router capable of logging connections or showing what connections are active?
I don't know - I'm trying to find out

5. How much bandwidth is your ISP calling "excessive"? Are they complaining even when you aren't using the Vonage line?
They are a little indefinite. The bandwidth draw is the same whether or not I'm using the phone.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ColdGin wrote:
60 mb? what?

The Vonage device uses one of three settings - 30, 50, and 90 kilobits per second. Even 90 is not what I would call excessive. Is your Vonage router wireless? Is anyone piggy backing off it possibly, or are you or someone else doing a lot of downloading and uploading on it? What kind of speeds are you paying for? If your ISP promises at least 128Kbps or more of upload speed, you should be able to use your service uninterrupted, albeit maybe on a lower codec setting.

Please provide more information about your ISP, and actual upload and download speeds, with QOS information. You can get this from http://speedtest.vonage.com


I'm paying for 512mb and it usually tests close to that. The bandwidth draw they are claiming doesn't change when I set the QC to 50mb
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

okanogan wrote:

3. When you plug the Vonage adapter into your router, does it show constant network activity, whether you are on the phone or not?
yes

4. Is your router capable of logging connections or showing what connections are active?
I don't know - I'm trying to find out

5. How much bandwidth is your ISP calling "excessive"? Are they complaining even when you aren't using the Vonage line?
They are a little indefinite. The bandwidth draw is the same whether or not I'm using the phone.


Hmmm. Something is wrong, there

I know I have a different model (WRTP54G), but it is the cousin to the RTP300 if I understand them correctly, and when I'm not on the phone on my Vonage line, I get the occasional, rare little "blink" on my router. I haven't stared at it, but the Vonage phone line draws almost nothing in terms of bandwidth unless I'm using it at the time. When I pick up the phone, the Internet light on the WRTP54G and the LAN activity light on my router both start flashing away.

So, NOTHING at all is plugged into the RTP300 at the time? The unit itself is generating all of the traffic? I assume you've rebooted everything to make sure you don't have a bizarre network route "stuck" somewhere, etc?

I know that WISP's can be a little "iffy" about bandwidth,since there's usually 11mbit to share among a fairly large user population, but they really should be able to tell you what "excessive" means. If they think 30kbit is "excessive", then you're screwed, because Vonage can't go below that. If the router is pulling more than that, then something is wrong.

What sustained upload/download rate are you allowed, or are they even willing to share that?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

okanogan wrote:

I'm paying for 512mb and it usually tests close to that. The bandwidth draw they are claiming doesn't change when I set the QC to 50mb


Slight clarification/correction. I think you mean "512kb" and "50kb". That may be part of the confusion.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

correct. Sorry, got my k's and m's mixed up.

They claimed yesterday that it was downloading more than 3MB in 30 sec
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

okanogan wrote:
correct. Sorry, got my k's and m's mixed up.

They claimed yesterday that it was downloading more than 3MB in 30 sec


That would be very consistent with a 90k connection (full quality signal) when your line is active. So that's no mystery at all presuming you were on the phone at the time.

But to have that amount of draw happening constantly, hmm. You've tried powercycling everything, and especially the Vonage device, I presume? What firmware revision is the RTP300 on?

Quality changes take a little time to reach your Vonage device, or can be forced by powering the Vonage device off and back on after you change the quality.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

quote]

So, NOTHING at all is plugged into the RTP300 at the time? The unit itself is generating all of the traffic? I assume you've rebooted everything to make sure you don't have a bizarre network route "stuck" somewhere, etc?

I know that WISP's can be a little "iffy" about bandwidth,since there's usually 11mbit to share among a fairly large user population, but they really should be able to tell you what "excessive" means. If they think 30kbit is "excessive", then you're screwed, because Vonage can't go below that. If the router is pulling more than that, then something is wrong.

What sustained upload/download rate are you allowed, or are they even willing to share that?[/quote]

Nothing is plugged into the RTP 300 - it's connected to the switch, parallel with my other machines.

512kb, burstable to 1mb
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