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Vonage [font=Verdana:1e82374bd3] Yes, good points Stephen, but read further please.
You
[font=Verdana:1e82374bd3] Yes, good points Stephen, but read further please.
You wrote:
Re a): No need to wait for the slow wheels of justice. Nomad/Yap are known spammers. I have the evidence myself, as do many thousands of other netizens who've been spammed by these jokers. Spammers are by definition ethically-challenged.
Guilty.
That there is already an SEC complaint only adds fuel to the fire, in my opinion. And that complaint relates to both YAP [and Nomad, taking your linkage at face value], and Triton American (TRAE)
Re b): You quoted paragraph 15 of the SEC complaint, but please also see ¶11:
If the SEC already knows these guys control some or all of Triton, why is it such a stretch to think they or their cronies, affiliates, etc also control Yap/Nomad? I assert they probably do. If not in a direct A to B relationship, then maybe in some crazy nonlinear A to D, D to E and F, E and F to B and C respectively, B and C to G, and then finally G to A. Throw in a neighbor, a couple of cousins who live abroad and a brother in law for good measure, just so the connections are a little harder to pin down. So what. Keep digging and the connections are still there to be found.
The PDF file you referred me to is relatively fresh, created 5/3/05. Seems likely the Complaint is fresh too. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if the warrants have already been executed and these connections are known by now.
I recognize one of the SEC's attorneys names, and I can absolutely assure you that he has been sent ample evidence of the Nomad spam campaign. Nuff said.
You may not recognize the names Meyer Blinder and Robert Brennan. If you do, great. If not, please do some Googling to get a sense of their stories. One's in the grave and the other is doing time, but I am confident that the scams they learned how to run over the years have been distilled and passed along to others who are using that knowledge today.
Also, you may be familiar with Sanford "Spamford" Wallace. Although he may not be doing much spamming these days, I doubt very much that he has really retired. Instead, it would seem more logical for someone like that to teach others. I'm sure any number of the ROKSO list have gleaned something from him.
The Nomad spams are interesting in that many use embedded images and other techniques to get past spam filters and into inboxes. The SEC may not be pros at it yet, but I'm willing to bet that they are learning how to analyze headers and sniff out the botnets being used for these campaigns. Soon enough they will learn how to chase the issued commands back to their senders. Again, the connections are there to be made. Just requires more time and some extra digging.
GUILTY.
Cheers,
Sean
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• [font=Verdana:67bd9c9365] Thank you Stephen, I had not been aware of the Yap/Nomad
• I submit for your consideration the SEC's case in the voicemail pump and dump.
• Hi Sean: I do not represent Vonage, I only report the news.
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Thank you Dan!
One of the challenges we
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sojs posted "[font=Verdana:1e82374bd3] Yes, good points Stephen, but read further please.
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