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Hi - I'm a new user to Vonage Canada, but a long time user of Vonage US.  I have been having a horrible time with sound quality.  Static, volume changes, and these periodic (1 second every 20 seconds or so) spots of dead air (people describe it as when you have call waiting, the one end gets a beep, while the other just doesn't hear anything.... except I don't have call waiting).

Vonage support has been very responsive in their replies which is great, except nothing seems to be changing.  I never had any problems in the US, but my bandwidth was significantly better there.

I'm on Bell Sympatico basic DSL, but I run Skype and also Sametime Voice (which is through VPN as well) and don't have any sound quality issues, so don't see why it should be a bandwidth issue.

I would love to stay with Vonage, but maybe will just have to stick it out with Bell, or hope that Gizmo5/Google hurries up....

Anyway help or suggestions are appreciated.
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<blockquote>I have no intention of answering your questions because you are trying to sell a product on a public forum. Most forums do not allow sales or product promotion postings. I suspect this one should not either.

I will say, however, that almost everything you describe can be done using a much cheaper ATA device. If a second voip line is required it is not difficult to find a free North American DID or a cheap monthly DID from a reputable provider. It can be anywhere in north america for those who have vonage unlimited north american calling.

Do it this way and you can easily put together a system that will work from anywhere in the world, not just from the U.S. 

Why did I call yours a stupid idea? Because it is expensive and you seem to be promoting it to make a profit for yourself.</blockquote>


That is a lame excuse. You made a claim and now you cannot prove it. No matter how cheap you can get a DID it is still a perpetual expense plus the cost of your ATA.  Not only that, please explain how you are going to configure your ATA with Vonage which is proprietary. You will have to hack Vonage which is illegal and definitely the stupid thing to do. And even if you are initially successful, how would you handle ever changing Vonage proxies and passwords? Also, see if you can pass through DTMF through your cell phone and two VoIP lines in series reliably all the time. Apparently you have no experience on the subject.
Being the only way my post would be understood (and still you did not) I had to mention the product because it is the only switch that can extend a single Vonage World line to an ordinary cell phone or land line located in the 60 flat-rate countries (I did not say only in the USA), without a data connection and without using any long 
distance, cellular or app minutes. And all I am asking from you is name one ATA that can do that.
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I have no intention of answering your questions because you are trying to sell a product on a public forum. Most forums do not allow sales or product promotion postings. I suspect this one should not either.

I will say, however, that almost everything you describe can be done using a much cheaper ATA device. If a second voip line is required it is not difficult to find a free North American DID or a cheap monthly DID from a reputable provider. It can be anywhere in north america for those who have vonage unlimited north american calling.

Do it this way and you can easily put together a system that will work from anywhere in the world, not just from the U.S. 

Why did I call yours a stupid idea? Because it is expensive and you seem to be promoting it to make a profit for yourself.
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The deal I mentioned is inphonex. I waffled on the price a little because the monthly price is lower if you pay quarterly or annually. And, of course, it depends on whatever level the C$ is at today. But it's a great deal and it works well. Only one hitch--if you don't have one you'll have to buy an ATA. But the Linksys PAP2T is only about $50 these days. It's easy to get in Canada by mailorder or at computer stores in the Toronto area.

I've been using inphonex for a few years for various purposes--DIDs in various cities, backup numbers etc. So I know they're reliable.

Thanks for the Vonage Alpha tip. I'll check it out,
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OK, you have to tell me where you are getting this great deal of $20-$25 to call World Wide, unless you are talking about Skype.

Vonage Canada and Vonage US are different companies.  I agree that Vonage Canada is dropping the ball, but Skype wasn't available in iTunes store either here in Canada at first, but I had it just made a U.S iTunes account.  Not sure if this will work for the Vonage App or not.

Now with regards to the Vonage app, I don't think you can make free calls with it though.  Have you tried to load Vonage Alpha on your iPhone, this is a website: www.alpha.vonage.com and click on contact book.  Once you are there you can choose which phone number you want it to call, it is treated as an incoming call to you.  You can use this via wi-fi or using your data plan.

Sure an application would be easier to use, but it works perfectly.
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<blockquote><blockquote> You can install a DialMate CM1003 (see www.woodtel.com) on your Vonage line at home and make calls through Vonage using your regular cellular network.</blockquote>

What a stupid idea. Why not just buy a one of the Linksys ATA products that will do the same thing for 20% of the price? And how does this help when Vonage customers are outside of the country? With an iphone/ipod touch you can find a wifi hotspot and use an app to dial out. On the other hand, if you brought your cell phone with you, you can  call the strange Dialmate device from Yemen for about a buck a minute.</blockquote>

Dear Mr. Toolio,

I am sorry I did not explain in detail my post to this forum. I thought the link to WoodTel&#8217;s web site was enough. I hope the following article will clarify everything:

&#8216;How To Extend Vonage WorldŽ To Your Cell Phone

Recent release of Vonage MobileŽ application on the iPhone and Blackberry has caused a lot of excitement among bloggers, iPhone and Blackberry users and the news media. What is little known to everybody is that with the installation of a small hardware on the Vonage WorldŽ line, Vonage MobileŽ becomes obsolete. Everybody was waiting for a Vonage WorldŽ version that would work on their cell phones. What we got was just a cheaper calling card that works only on an expensive smart phone - the iPhone or the Blackberry. Using an iPhone, we have a choice of operating it on WiFi or regular cellular network. With the Blackberry, we can only use the regular cellular network. When we run it directly on a cellular  network, we use cellular minutes (air time, Vonage Mobile, and possibly roaming charges). When we choose to go with WiFi we have to seek out hotspots, which are not readily available, especially when we are on the move. It is also inconvenient that we must anticipate and prepay for these services. There is no need for any of these if you already have a Vonage WorldŽ account. You can extend your Vonage WorldŽ line to any cell phone now. Here&#8217;s how:

First, Slash Your Monthly Bill and Get Free Unlimited Air Time

You subscribe to a cellular plan which has either free incoming calls or free calls to and from favorite numbers. You designate your VonageŽ number as a favorite number. This gives you free unlimited air time calling to and from that number. Even as heavy cell phone users, you can sign up for the minimum $49 per month plan and slash your monthly bill by half and still make free unlimited air time and long distance calls.

Then, Access and Call Out From Your Vonage WorldŽ Line

To illustrate how Vonage WorldŽ can be accessed manually by any cell phone user using the regular cellular network, let&#8217;s say you have somebody (your wife) at home where your Vonage World line is installed. You call your VonageŽ line (or have your wife call you from the VonageŽ line), your wife answers and you tell her to transfer the call to another number which could be domestic (all USA and Canadian numbers located anywhere in the world are transferable) or international (some countries like India, China, Malaysia are transferable). Your wife will tap the hook switch (flash), put you on hold and get another dial tone. She then dials &#8220;#90&#8221; (to tell VonageŽ it is a transfer call), the country code, city code and the telephone number. VonageŽ will automatically transfer the call to connect you directly to the destination number. VonageŽ will send your wife a stutter dial tone and a long dial tone to signal her to hang up and free up the VonageŽ line. Your son (friend, employee, etc.), using their own cell phone, can repeat the process and be connected to their destination number at the same time you are using the system. Of course it is not practical for your wife to do all these things for you even if you are saving a bundle. What you can do is install a telecommunication switch such as the DialMate CM1003 (see www.woodtel.com) on your VonageŽ line and have it perform all these functions for you. With this combination you can place the cheapest domestic and international calls from your cell phone.  As an added bonus, the people you call in those 60 flat-rate-calling-countries can also use your Vonage WorldŽ line to call those 60 countries for free and most importantly, using just an ordinary cell phone or landline, without a broadband connection. Replacing your sim card with a local one when traveling to those flat-rate countries that include free cell phone calling gives you the same valuable benefit.&#8217;

Let&#8217;s analyze more closely the Vonage WorldŽ and DialMate CM1003 features that interact together to save families, friends, businesses, associations, etc. a lot of money.
1. Call Return, Call Back, Three-Way Calling and Call Transfer &#8211; You can program &#8216;*69, pause, 1&#8217; as the call back number and have   everybody with a USA/Canadian number located anywhere in the world call the 60 countries. All these guys have to do is call the unit, ring it twice and hang up and they will get a return call. Once connected, they enter the PIN and their destination number and they will be able to talk to their families, friends, associates, etc. in those 60 countries for free using Vonage&#8217;s Three-Way Calling or Call Transfer feature on the fly.
2. Call Bridge &#8211; If the users have free air time and long distance (USA/Canada) calling, they can just call the unit directly and bridge their call similarly as in 1.
3. Call Back &#8211; When 2 is used, that means a number in any of the 60 countries can be programmed as the call back number. This is what I meant when I said the account can also be shared with people residing in those 60 countries.
4. Call Back &#8211; For those traveling to those 60 countries, especially countries where Vonage cell phone calling is free, get a local sim card and program the number as the call back number.

For those who have smart phones, do not despair. You can download Skype, find a hot spot do call back and call the 60 countries without using Skype minutes, which is much better than Mr. Toolio&#8217;s suggestion.

Now, the next question is will this system disrupt Vonage? I don&#8217;t think so. As a matter of fact, I think they should even encourage it. They should just drop Vonage MobileŽ and concentrate on Vonage WorldŽ.
This is their best shot in expanding their business in the two most populated countries in the world, China and India. In no time they will overtake Skype and become the number one telephone company in the world.

My last questions are for Mr. Toolio. Can your idea of using only a Linksys ATA  installed with a single line (I am emphasizing single line because if you will use two lines, an extra line will be a perpetual expense that will exceed the price of the CM1003) Vonage WorldŽ duplicate the above? If it does, please explain how it will do Call Back, Call Transfer and Three-way Calling automatically by itself. And finally, do you still think this is a stupid idea?

Ž Vonage Holdings Corporation Registered Trademark
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<blockquote> You can install a DialMate CM1003 (see www.woodtel.com) on your Vonage line at home and make calls through Vonage using your regular cellular network.</blockquote>

What a stupid idea. Why not just buy a one of the Linksys ATA products that will do the same thing for 20% of the price? And how does this help when Vonage customers are outside of the country? With an iphone/ipod touch you can find a wifi hotspot and use an app to dial out. On the other hand, if you brought your cell phone with you, you can  call the strange Dialmate device from Yemen for about a buck a minute.
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Of course it isn't available in Canada. Nor is just about anything else offered by Vonage in the U.S.--including the worldwide calling plan. 

Vonage is so far behind the curve here they'll be rolling backwards soon. After five years I'm about to call it quits. I can buy worldwide calling for $20-$25 a month elsewhere or I can continue to pay Vonage Canada absurd monthly rates and per minute rates ranging up to 20 cents for countries that are in othe providers &quot;unlimited&quot; lists. Oh, and did I mention that near-parity with the U.S. dollar makes this all even more absurd?

Vonage Canada once represented value and service. Now it is just an overpriced VOIP company with half the features of the rest. They still haven't figured out how to transmit caller name info on outgoing calls.

So don't hold your breath waiting for anything from Vonage Canada.
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Hi:

Does anyone know the status of Vonage Mobile &amp;amp; the iPhone for Canada.

Now that both Bell &amp;amp; TELUS are deploying iPhones, I would expect the demand to increase but the AppStore 'links' indicate it is not available in Canada.

Thanks,

Z
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<blockquote>It is not uncommon to pick up the phone and get loud static instead of dial tone.</blockquote>

The Vonage dial tone is produced by the ATA itself, and is not sent over the network.  If you got static and noise when you were expecting dial tone, the trouble is not in the Vonage network.  It is either in your ATA (the &quot;Vonage Device&quot;) or in your telephone or in the wiring between your telephone and the ATA.

Plug a known-good telephone directly into the ATA's phone jack.  If you get static, you have a defective ATA.  If not, and if you still get static when plugged in where you normally use it, then you have a wiring problem.  Either way, these are routine repair issues.

When the dial tone is clean, then see if you are still experiencing impaired transmission during conversation.  If so, then you have a network problem.

Yes, I know, you've already give up on Vonage.  But perhaps my response will help another reader of this thread.
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