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Vonage VoIP Forum Digest - November 7, 2005

Vonage VoIP Forum Digest

November 7, 2005

By Daniel Connor

Welcome to today's edition of the Vonage Voip Forum Digest. First, I have some great news. Early Sunday, we got our 14 millionth page view since we started our Forum here back in March, 2003. Every time you click on a page here in the Forum, that's one more page view. So, thanks for all your clicks.

We'll look at a news article that makes a strong case for users to have Vonage service rather than buy Voip in a bundle from their Internet service provider, cable or phone company. We'll also review a report in which some Realtors, developers and others think that condos pre-wired for Voip could be a great deal. We'll look at Vonage Voip Forum threads from a new Vonage Forum member looking for equipment suggestions, as well as a thread from another new member wanting tips on running Vonage through a satellite delivered Internet connection. And finally, we'll meet our new Vonage Voip Forum Member of the Week.

Vonage In The Headlines

Vonage Backed As a "More Than One Way" Solution

Yesterday, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel ran an interesting article I came across by means of a Google search. Sometimes I do Google searches to find interesting articles about Vonage.

The article mentioned this elderly couple in Plantation, Fla., who "put all their eggs in one basket" by getting their phone, cable and Internet service from the same provider. The same article mentioned a business person in Hollywood, Fla., who lost his high-speed broadband Internet service.

Yet this business person was able to use Vonage, even though his Internet service was out. "Since Vonage's service is portable," writes the Sun-Sentinel's Ian Katz, (the business person) "was able to set up the equipment at the data center where he has his computer servers. He can't answer the phone there, but callers get an answering machine and Keeley can check for messages."

Vonage Service May Be Good Move For Condo Associations

I found another interesting article this morning. Holden Lewis at the financial advice site interviews several Realtors and lenders that say that residential condos that offer built in Wi-Fi, and pre-provided VoIP service from a company such as Vonage, would be that much more attractive to buyers.

The article has a quote from Vamsi Sistla, director of broadband, digital home and digital media at ABI Research. Lewis  says that Sistla foresees a trend in which residential condo associations partner with phone companies such as Vonage.

"'That would be a very smart move for the provider,'" Lewis quotes Sistla as saying, '" because they could have a more centralized process in place. And the association could get a cut.'"

On The Vonage Voip Forum

Here on the Vonage Voip Forum, we get a lot of questions and threads from new Forum Members who want answers to some questions before they actually sign up for Vonage service. One of these new Members, thebove, started such a thread a few days ago and named it looking into vonage, equipment setup/suggestions needed.

"We're looking into getting Vonage phone service for our house. I've read through most of the setup and don't really have any issues except for one - I'm curious/concerned how the phone adapter/router will work in conjunction with our existing network here," thebove writes.

"We have Comcast cable service (southeast Michigan area)," he adds. Cable is connected to a Motorola sb5100 surfboard, then the Ethernet connection goes to a linksys BEFSX41 firewall/VPN endpoint router. there is also a switch on the network downstream from the router."

As thebove put it, his big question is which setup is generally "better" with an existing router - placing the phone adapter behind the existing router we're looking into getting Vonage phone service for our house. I've read through most of the setup and don't really have any issues except for one - I'm curious/concerned how the phone adapter/router will work in conjunction with our existing network here.

Thebove then goes on to explain that he currently needs outside access to his network through various ports (for ftp, remote desktop, etc...), "as well as a VPN tunnel which is all configured on my linksys router. Because of this," he says, "I'd rather not put the phone adapter in front and have to reconfigure all of that through the new router, mainly because i don't know how the VPN would cooperate with having to go through another router here before getting to the BEFSX41."

"On the other hand, it's extremely important to us that our phone service be a solid as possible, so I'm concerned with putting the phone adapter behind the other router and losing the ability to have the voice data prioritized," thebove adds. "It seems many of the users here are in fact running their phone adapters behind another router, so is the voice data prioritization even worth worrying about?"

"Alternatively, if the linksys RTP300 is capable of acting as a VPN endpoint, that would eliminate the need to even have the BEFSX41," but i haven't been able to find out for sure if the RTP300 is capable of that."

Several Vonage Forum Members, including NateHoy, grizzley, and mundy5, have posted helpful answers.

"Based on my experience, which is not to be considered gospel or a sign of a trend, I'd buy the simplest Vonage adapter and put it behind your firewall," NateHoy writes. "I've been very disappointed in the performance of my WRTP54G. I think adding Voip capability to the unit has kept it from being a star performer in other areas, such as routing large amounts of traffic. 

"I'm actually considering purchasing a separate router and relegating my Vonage router/adapter to "Vonage duty only" to keep the load off it," NateHoy adds. "It seems to be pretty stable as long as I don't unleash things like BitTorrent on it."

Grizzley then posts his needs and his setup. "I have to have outside access into a few of the PC's running also," he says. "Here is how I have it setup and it works GREAT: 

"Cable into house --> Linksys Router Linksys Router has 4 ports Port 1 - PC Port 2 - PC Port 3 - Vonage Port 4 - Wireless Router."

As far as the results are concerned, grizzley writes, "this still lets you control the incoming traffic and I still get great phone service."

"I didn't see any QoS (Quality of Service) control on your router but it doesn't mean that you will have bad call quality," mundy5 posts. "At this point, QoS would be the only reason for having the Vonage router in front. "You can try qrizzley's setup and see if it works."

From time to time, I have heard of Vonage users trying to get Vonage to work with a satellite-delivered Internet connection. VoIP Over Satellite is a new thread on the subject started over the weekend by Vonage Forum Member danp6420.

"Any Helpful Hints out there with voice delay using (satellite)," danp6420 asks. "ISP Calls go out very good now but voice is still about seven second delay and some times have the echo problems also."

"Not much to say on this really....the inherent latency with (satellite ISP) makes it hardly usable," Trowski writes.

DallasFlier offers a few more details. "Yes, the helpful hint is - don't. I believe if you look, your satellite ISP states clearly that the service is not suitable for VoIP usage," he writes. "Unless you can figure out some way to beat the laws of physics and speed up the speed of light, you cannot do anything about the delay. Trying to run Voip over satellite just isn't a smart idea at all."

Finally, it's time for our newest Vonage Voip Forum Member of the Week. This has got to be the first time we've given this award to someone who hasn't even been a Vonage Forum Member for a whole week yet! But NateHoy, who only joined us on November 1, is rapidly closing in on 100 posts. Some are questions - good ones all- but many are answers- good ones all. So a-hoy, NateHoy, we name you our Vonage Voip Forum Member of the Week. To see a list of some of NateHoy's posts, click here

So How Do We Come Up With Those Titles For You Members?

I am sure that many of you have noticed that next to each posts, we have a description of each Member- "Vonage Forum Associate," Vonage Forum Evangelist," etc. Most of these titles are assigned based on the number of Posts Members have made.

There's no secret formula. In case you are wondering, here it is:

New Forum Member 1 Post; Vonage Forum Member at least 10 Posts; Vonage Forum Associate, at least 25 Posts; Vonage Forum Junior, at least 40 Posts; Vonage Forum Senior, at least 75 Posts; Vonage Forum Master, at least 150 Posts; Vonage Forum Evangelist, at least 300 Posts, and Vonage Forum MVM, a minimum of 1000 Posts.

As we close out today's Digest, I'd like to remind you once again about some more options you have to receive the Vonage Voip Forum Digest every day. If you go to this page:, you will see a list of RSS Newsreaders from which with one or two clicks, you'll be able to get your Digest delivered directly to your Newsreader each morning. The Newsreaders we've linked to on that page include such reliable and trusted services as Bloglines, Feedster, My Yahoo!, Newsgator and Feedburner. I am open to add others, just contact me with the info of the Newsreader.

That's what's hot about Vonage today. We'll be back on Tuesday morning with our next edition of the Vonage VoIP Forum Digest!!

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