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Vonage Yes, and then again, anything is possible. We also have phone service outages



Yes, and then again, anything is possible.

We also have phone service outages with traditional POTS landlines.

Sometimes (gasp!) I dial and get a recording saying "all circuits are busy". Say it ain't so Ma Bell!

And lets not even talk about cellular.

I used to do work for Bell Atlantic. One of their engineers explained to me that with cell service, they have a "threshold of pain" theory. Basically, cell customers expect a certain amount of dropped calls, static, and other problems. Since they expect this, there is little point in installing additional cell towers and improving the service much. Why bother? The customers will tolerate the present level of "pain" and fairly hefty prices.

Compared to cell service, the threshold on Vonage seems to be a LOT lower. Will there ever be problems? Sure. But good old Ma Bell has plenty of those, too.

So long as the service levels are comparable, I don't see this is an issue.

And with regard to "what ifs" about hijacked phone numbers or intecepted phone calls, that sounds to me like some shills from CWA posting, frankly. Non-issues being blown all out of proportion.

If someone is going to drop Vonage because maybe someday possibly there might be a problem, I'd be willing to bet Vonage is just as happy to see that customer go away. They are not worth the $24.99 a month aggravation.

If you can run a business where you cull out all the problem customers, time-wasters, whiners, etc., you can really lower prices and boost your bottom line.

That has been my personal business plan. 5% of clients cause 95% of the problems and waste 95% of your time. Firing a client often is the best solution. You can spend more time on the remaining clients and offer better (and cheaper) service.

To folks raised on "the customer is always right" this sounds like an ananthema. To heck with them!

Sounds like a good plan to me. All you whiners, just go away.

I'll stick with the Vonage, thanks. Had my fill of telcos.



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Hacking Vonage phone #''s


I was told that someone can hack your Vonage phone # , etc and use it to make international
I label myself as one of the most knowledgeable people regarding Vonage and I have
There have been presentations about security vulnerabilities for VoIP calling
This would be the source of such rumors: CWA
I am wondering if the source of any rumor discussing number hijacking isn't rooted
anyone who is going to invest the time in hacking the proxy servers and passwords
This was on Yahoo! news today http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&ncid=1
Yes, it is very possible. I had some problems last night and they last about 10 minutes.
Communications Workers of America? That Figures. God, I hate these folks.
There has been much talk in the technical journals regarding the hacking and disrupting

robertplattbell posted "Yes, and then again, anything is possible. We also have phone service outages" on 05/05/2005

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