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What type of ISP do you have (cable, dsl, wireless)?

In general at this point simply offering QoS isn't going to hurt your connection if your connection is good right now. Only if the ISP intentionally degrades the connection or sells enough capacity would QoS features begin to make a difference.

Some Cable ISPs are offering digital phone service and are able to claim a higher quality of service because the Internet connection for their phone service runs over a separate data channel isolated from gamers and file traders. Since it is separate, simply offering this service will not negatively impact your existing service.

A brief explanation of QoS, dropped packets and traffic shaping;

Internet traffic is inherently bursty. There are several traffic spikes each day because people tend to do the same thing at the same time.

In one model the ISP has enough capacity to handle all of the traffic at peak times. Think of the sewer system. You may have heard the urban legend about sewer systems being overwhelmed at half-time when everybody flushes simultaneously. That is false, the sewer system is designed to handle all of the traffic even during the superbowl. This is how Vonage wants ISPs to operate.

In another model the ISP saves money by having enough capacity to handle the traffic 95 percent of the time. During the other 5% some of the traffic is dropped. An ISP can actually save a significant amount of money in this mode because of the nature of Internet use. This is actually the model most people use at home. Few people buy the fastest product their ISP has to offer because they wouldn't use that much capacity most of the time.

There are several ways then to offer QoS. You could sell QoS for the connection, but as soon as everyone buys QoS then all packets are equal and someone's packets are being dropped again.

You can offer QoS on certain types of traffic (typically Voip and streaming media). This guarantees that your real-time protocols have the lowest dropped packet rate. If the period that the line is saturated is long enough this can actually cause more problems than it solves. In this method the packets that are being dropped will typically be re-requested and re-transmitted. The actual load on the network will increase in response to the lost packets.

The last way (well there are actually a lot more permutations but I am trying to keep it simple) to offer QoS is to allow a limited number of packets from real-time streams to be lost. It isn't typically obvious if you lose a packet here or there during a call. Simultaneously you slow down the request/response protocols (email, web, file trading). This lowers the network usage and prevents initial dropped packets and subsequent re-requests and re-transmissions. This is actually how the third party broadband accelerators you can add to your home network operate.

Back to your question... just because your ISP prioritized their own digital phone traffic doesn't mean that your service is necessarily worse. However, if a lot of people in your area bought phone service from your ISP you might run into a problem. Even then, one method of providing QoS is to keep the digital phone network isolated from the standard Internet traffic and in that case their phone product should have no effect on your quality.

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I just found out that my problems could be related to this tidbit of information: My
you don't even name your isp, much less provide any useful information from the
Location: Chicora, PA ISP: Armstrong ZoomInternet cable Expected download
First, run a test and see what the results are. Post them here
OK, those upload numbers are.. scary bad. OK, next test. Hook your computer
Those are actually the numbers I ran last night from the Modem > PC connection.
My results:
Thanks for your very informative post. My ISP is cable; 5mbps download 512kbps
I believe by service in the quote above that they mean Video, Telephony and Data.

scerruti posted "What type of ISP do you have (cable, dsl, wireless)? In general at this point" on 03/31/2006

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