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Vonage Uh-oh. Someone asked the talkative guy for an explanation....believe me I can

Uh-oh. Someone asked the talkative guy for an explanation....believe me I can get quite wordy....

Ok. Here's the scoop:

I do not have any pictures to show what is going on - but if you look at a phone cord you will see what I am describing...

RJ11 jacks and cords usually have 4 conductors - usually red/green and yellow/black.
The red/green are the inner 2 conductors and the yellow/black are on the outside.
This allows 2 telephone lines - red/green (line 1) and yellow/black (line 2).

BUT: on most multi line Voip telephone adapters line 1 and line 2 are separate jacks - each using the inner pair.

The jack(s) on the phone adapter may have 4 brass connectors - my Moto has 4 in each jack. the outer connectors are just connected to the inner connectors on the circuit board of the motorola.

Your telecom device - (fax, credit card terminal etc) usually is a single line device - thus just using the inner pair. It may also have 4 brass contacts on its jack.

Now comes the possible explanation why 2 conductor cables seems to work....

Silver satin/flat phone cords usually have 4 wires parallel to each other. Wires that are parallel have an effect called "crosstalk" - where a signal/impulse from one wire may radiate its information to the wire adjacent to it. This is one reason CAT3-5 network cable is twisted - this minimizes 'crosstalk'.

With the outer pair not being used, and may be part of the circuit, this outer pair may act like a dipole antenna and absorbing EMR from the area, or inducing a harmonic (by feeding back the radiated signal from the inner pair).

Now on some devices - (espcially analog/digital devices like modems, faxes etc) a little interference will disrupt the communication.

When all of this is coupled with the Voip adapter - a sound/signal that is induced or distorted can garble up the communication that is required for faxing and data transfer.

I discovered all of this by mistake - My HP 'whiz bang' all in one shipped with a 2 conductor phone cord. I attached it to my Vonage line and everything worked. Then after my wife decided to move furniture around (and the printer/fax) I could no longer fax. It did not occur to me that it was Vonage and I called HP. I explained what was happening and he said - are you using the cable that came with the fax? I replied "no." He asked me if I had an open mind - to try the 2 conductor cable. I did. And it worked.

I then looked in my HP manual and sure enough on page 3 of installation was a pretty picture showing a 2 conductor cord instead of the usual 4 and a caption saying "...use the HP supplied 2 conductor cable..." to connect to the phone line.

I looked closely at my phone cords - in fact one of them had only 2 wires inside it - the red/green pair (and the rj11 only had 2 brass contacts on it)

Well, for a long time I was happy that it worked and did not ask why. But after many forum users have agreed that this helps - I decided to dig a little deeper.

The above description is the best explanation that I can dig up...

the guy who described this to me may be filling me full of garbage, but it does make sense - in a layman sort of way. You have to understand this guy is a real geek-oid with solder and flux under his fingernails and resistors for earrings...- and would probably tell me that microwave radiation direct to my cerebral cortex is beneficial if he thought he was on my life insurance policy too....

Also, it might be noted that I use the *99 feature of my motorola adapter to change the codec to the highest setting before each phone call - just dial *99 then wait for the dial tone again then dial the number. This ensures that you are using the highest quality setting. I am not sure about the other adapters though....

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can Vonage take my fax number and will credit card terminal

I'd like to keep my fax number and give it to Vonage (probably should try my fax machine
I have used 2 different credit card terminals with Vonage and both work great.
Good to hear. My credit card processing is considerably less than yours. I have

Hint - If you have troubles faxing or using credit card terminals - Try
Hey ssstuckey, a littl emore info on those 2 conductor cables, if you would... Thanks.
Thanks. Didn't work for what I was trying to get around, but I thought it worth the
Just a thought...Has anyone that is having fax or credit card terminal problems
We got everything working. Fax was actually easy, decided to use the computer,

sdstuckey posted "Uh-oh. Someone asked the talkative guy for an explanation....believe me I can" on 04/30/2005

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