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Vonage There are two arguments here. I am going to deal with the easy one first. How



There are two arguments here. I am going to deal with the easy one first.

How can ISPs charge Voip users more, isn't it a violation of their terms of service?

Any company can change their terms of service at any time. By agreeing to continue service you agree to the terms of service. If you had a contract for service at a fixed price over a definite period that does not specifically give the ISP the right to alter the terms of service or terminate your service then you might have a case that the ISP could not charge you for Voip use for the remainder of that time period.

If we are already paying for the bandwidth why should the ISPs charge more?

Actually ISPs already have items in their terms of service to prevent excessive use of bandwidth. Many ISPs specifically prohibit running email and web servers and some even block the standard ports.

The problem here is that ISPs sell the same bandwidth over and over again knowing that most customers will not use much.

But if that is the case, why don't ISPs charge more for file sharers who use a lot of bandwidth?

The essential problem here is that the ISPs want a piece of the Voip pie. They can accomplish that by either being your Voip provider or by charging your Voip provider an extra carrier charge. This very charge is something that has been written into the latest telecommunications bill being considered in Washington. With file sharing there typically isn't a service provider who is making money so the ISP has no profits to try to get a cut.

Is there some logic to ISPs charging more for Voip?

New Internet protocols and telecommunication technologies would allow the ISPs to prioritize Voip traffic and guarantee a level of service. Customers who pay this extra fee could be given an SLA (Service Level Agreement) that would reimburse them if there were quality issues that affected their calls. If the ISPs were willing to provide SLAs in return for these extra charges many people would be willing to pay the charge.

What can I do to keep from getting charged for Voip by my ISP?

You can write your representatives and tell them you are against Voip charges as included in the Telecommunications Act of 2005.

If your ISP charges you for Voip then, if you have the option, you can vote with your dollars by switching ISPs.

Isn't the Internet supposed to be free of regulations like this?

No, this is a common misconception. The earliest Internet was for DoD use only. It extended into academics and research and only later into the commercial arena. There is a long history of ISPs restricting content for moral, technical and financial reasons.

Vonage is arguing that ISPs should be treated as a new class of common carrier and that they should not be allowed to block content. This law provides those protections, however it does allow the ISP to charge third parties to deliver content over its network.

It is important to note that even while Vonage maintains networks should be open, Vonage remains closed to the concept of Voip peering with other providers, specifically FWD.



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I heard this on the Kim Komando radio program and I can't believe it. She was saying
And they've been saying for years the Post Office was gonna start charging for
I wouldn't have given it a thought, but Kim Komando is fairly accurate with her
Well they better start charging extra too for people using bittorrent and similar
I agree: Most of our get broadband because we want a high speed, always on connection.
Well, if that is true about a service level commentment, and priority to VOIP traffic
Well, If there is a charge added then our friends at the broadband companies will
One other thought: I wonder, if I went down to the local Time Warner office, what
Most people dont have a computer or a high-speed connection. I dont see VoIP taking

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