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Vonage So this "issue" is really a red herring, isn't it? As I recall, the thread was

So this "issue" is really a red herring, isn't it?

As I recall, the thread was started by a fellow who wanted to dump Vonage service because it was not "secure". Sounds like an odd reason to go back to telco (and pay 2-3 times as much) - that maybe, possibly, someday, someone *might* intecept one of your calls.

Sounds more like a carefully orchestrated disinformation campaign.

So, it might be technically feasible to intercept an internet phone call, provided you can snatch all the packets for the call at the right place at the right time. So far, it has not been done (outside of any government agency, I'm sure the boys in McLean have already done it).

So why is this being raised as a serious "issue"? As noted, plain old telephone service is far easier to "hack" with a pair of alligator clips.

It is disinformation, plain and simple. It sounds a LOT like the stories the UAW used to spread about Japanese cars back in the 1970's and 1980's when I worked at GM. If you can't compete on price/value, then spread rumors. That has worked out well for GM and the UAW, as you can see.....

I think the telcos are scared to death, and the telco unions (CWA) are petrified. Like many other unions, they presumed thier jobs would never go away, as they had no competition, and their employers had a government mandated monopoly.

And everyone needs phone service, right?

So high school dropouts could command salaries commensurate with that of a Doctor, and do slipshod work and never worry about getting fired. And of course, get incredible health care benefits, and a cushy retirement. The rest of us have to work for a living.

Funny thing, though. As consumers, Americans tend not to like poorly made products and bad service - not when there is an alternative. And now there is.

Customer service (dialup) at Vonage is not all that great - about commensurate with the telcos. But since it is at least 1/2 the cost of copper, it is quite a bargain. And the basic service itself seems to be comparable to what the Ma Bells have to offer. A dialtone is a dialtone.

Granted, you still have to deal with the cable company. Funny thing, though. Even though historically the cable companies have had horrible reputations for bad service, I'm finding that the local provider (Cox) is much more responsive than the local telco (Verizon). If you call their service number (Cox) you talk to a person almost right away. Much better DTMF menu as well!

I can say the same for Comcast in Florida (versus Bell South). I'd rather deal with the independent contractor "cable guy" than the sullen angry union phone tech. Get'er done!

Funny how that works. Good service and accountability seem to go hand in hand.

Go ahead and keep spreading the disinformation about Voip. Frankly, resorting to things like "security" smacks of desperation to me. I guess you can't argue the basic price/service/value thing, so you have to grasp at straws.

Like I said, if this "security" thing is such a big deal, go back to Momma Bell, and stop whining on the Vonage site. I think the rest of us like this service.

Nice thing about that, too. If you don't like Vonage, you can go elsewhere. Choices!!

Even if Voip is NOT for you, its very existance will force the telcos (and the unions) to get their act together. As the rate of telco disconnects continues to rise, something will have to give.


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Hacking Vonage phone #''s

I was told that someone can hack your Vonage phone # , etc and use it to make international
I label myself as one of the most knowledgeable people regarding Vonage and I have
There have been presentations about security vulnerabilities for VoIP calling
This would be the source of such rumors: CWA
I am wondering if the source of any rumor discussing number hijacking isn't rooted
anyone who is going to invest the time in hacking the proxy servers and passwords
This was on Yahoo! news today
Yes, it is very possible. I had some problems last night and they last about 10 minutes.
Communications Workers of America? That Figures. God, I hate these folks.
There has been much talk in the technical journals regarding the hacking and disrupting

robertplattbell posted "So this "issue" is really a red herring, isn't it? As I recall, the thread was" on 05/06/2005

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