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Vonage QUOTE As for Comcast having a monopoly, I guess it depends on how far one wishes



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As for Comcast having a monopoly, I guess it depends on how far one wishes to stretch the definition of a monopoly. Clearly, they are the only provider in most areas they provide service. But I believe a monopoly means no one else is allowed to provide that same service in that same area, which certainly is not the case. It's called an over-build, and other providers are welcome to come in and lay their own lines, provide their competing services, etc. And that's where the problem is. Networks like Comcast, Time Warner, and others aren't required to share their bandwidth (and I don't believe they should be). So over-building is cost-prohibitive, and that's why you really don't see it. Is that a monopoly? I guess it's a matter of opinion. I would like to see competition bring down prices, but how can that happen?

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Actually, in the early days when cable first got started, they were a monopoly in most markets. Companies bid on the monopoly rights along with the rights to string the cable along the right-a-ways that the utilities (phone and electric) used. As part of these rights, the cable companies agreed to a number of things, including abiding by the FCC guidelines.

The cable companies still need these right-a-ways, and part of what they must agree with in order to keep them is FCC guidelines. part of the FCC guidelines are;

"(1) consumers are entitled to access the lawful Internet content of their choice;
(2) consumers are entitled to run applications and services of their choice, subject to the needs of law enforcement;
(3) consumers are entitled to connect their choice of legal devices that do not harm the network "

Now, as far as comcast "sharing" their bandwidth, I am not asking for that. I have PAID for bandwidth, and I wish to use it per the FCC guidelines above.

I do not know who's problem this is, but I know;

I had over 6 months of uninterrupted quality Vonage service until the Vonage service announcement about comcast service started.

I had over 6 months of uninterrupted quality Vonage service until comcast rolled out their service (for twice the money)

I am connecting a legal device to the internet

I am accessing a legal service and running legal programs

Loss of phone service for over 1 week in large area's of the country is a public safety hazard, and completely defeats the E911 service REQUIRED by the FCC.

Lastly, I did check my house wiring before even looking into the Vonage forums.

As for what I understand to be true, these problems occur only with comcast users, and no other cable companies at this time

When other cable companies have tried similar this to what is being alleged here ( port blocking), the have been forced to pay damages and sign concent decrees agreeing to never do it again.

As for my opinion, the vongage people putting up the service announcements are eventually going to be in big trouble if they do not have some level of proof or justification to back up their claims. It is easier to believe that some comcast marketing person came up with a blocking scheme than a Vonage service person would make false claims in writing (and subject to all the legal ramifications_



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ok, thank you CyberCSI for ur link. It seems you're very knowledgeable about networking
I'm seeing the exact same thing. Seems to be losing that last hop before it gets
And here we go again............
I am no believer in conspiracies, but having seen two episodes of Vonage issues
Well, Comcast is doing their own VoIP service in some areas now.... considering
(As I shudder contemplating the impending buy out of my most excellent ISP by Comcast)... I
I know ISPs like to provide that "bandwidth hog" argument, but in reality, does
Well, you're right of course, it's a low use compared to those... except that it
I will call my local comcast now and ask if they offer voip.. as they did not in my
somethings is going on... Before when I called comcast I always got the same

shidokan posted "QUOTE As for Comcast having a monopoly, I guess it depends on how far one wishes" on 03/03/2006

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