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If I understand correctly, Zoly is pointing out a paradox of sorts. He is calling his friend from his own Vonage phone. Since her number hasn't been ported yet, she is continuing to use SBC, but Vonage isn't routing his call to her SBC, Vonage is sending his call to her Vonage voicemail. So here's the paradox: since he has a Vonage phone, he can no longer reach his friend directly!

In other words, once you request lnp on a number, anyone using Vonage to call you will have the call connected to your Vonage account, but anyone calling from outside Vonage will have the number connected to your old PTSN number.

The practical answer to this for Zoly and his friend is to have 2 phones connected, one to the POTS line and one to Vonage. That way, people calling from Vonage or over the PTSN can all continue to reach her.

And the answer for Vonage is to stop assigning lnp numbers to Vonage accounts until the number transfer has actually taken place!

Not to go on a rant, but: Is anyone from Vonage listening to any of this? If so, could someone from Vonage please comment? I think it isn't acceptable to have one phone number ringing to one of two different places, depending on what system the call is placed from! Let me go even further. I bet there is some law or regulation that is being violated in having the system work this way. Vonage hasn't completed the number transfer yet, but they are essentially hijacking the phone number for their own internal purposes. The number doesn't belong to them yet, it belongs to the local phone company!

Ok, I can't stop myself, here's more:
There is all kinds of talk from the Voip community about the need to avoid excessive regulation in order to allow the Voip business to develop. The only alternative to external regulation is self-regulation, and that means taking quick steps to correct the kinds of problems that Zoly has brought to our attention! Are you listening Vonage?



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5 days number transfer process


I recently signed up my friend to Vonage and I was really afraid she would not
I doubt it. :D Seriously though, are you sure? Is her old phone line dead?
wireless portability is VERY fast. normally less then a few hours. to a couple
Do we really have any *evidence* that it is the local phone companies that are causing
Oh, believe me - I am pretty sure. Here phone number is with Vonage now.
Well, I have to admit that what Vonage calls phone number portability has nothing
That makes sense. Vonage has complete control over where numbers dialed on there
I mean that when I dial her current (to be transferred to Vonage) phone number,
Ok well my number should have been transferred on the 8th! Grrrrrr still no end

Anonymous posted "If I understand correctly, Zoly is pointing out a paradox of sorts. He is calling" on 01/27/2004

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