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I would like to say that I am not against ISPs charging a premium to allow you to use Voip.

First, your provider most likely reserves the right to change their terms at any time, so any argument about advertising "continuous and unlimited" is probably not relevant. People scream and cry whenever a company makes significant changes in how they are offering services, but ultimately unless you have a long term contract with them they are not bound to continue offering that type of service. Obviously these companies are under some level of regulation, but the link Dan posted talked about an ISP requiring Voip customers to use a higher priced static IP plan. This is simply one example of how ISPs can force you into paying more.

The current billing methodology for residential Internet service is flawed. The real problem is that it is very hard to implement and justify metered plans. Often the cost of measuring usage for billing outweighs the benefits to be gained.

There would be several motivations for implementing a higher charge for Voip, and note that although I say charge higher for Voip my argument above is they would have to increase your bill based on actual usage and not specifically because you use Voip.
ISPs have noticed people are willing to pay for Voip and therefore they want a piece of the pie. Most people are saving enough on Voip over traditional service that the ISP could tack on a dollar or two and not hurt the market, especially if it was hidden in your Voip bill as is described in the current draft legislation. ISPs want to force third party Voip prices up to make their less efficient Voip offerings more price competitive. Most Cable ISPs are offering a service that was intended to compete with POTS and is not designed to compete on cost with Vonage. Forward looking ISPs may implement protocols that allow for QoS provisions that enable you to get priority on your traffic all the way through their network, and possibly farther. It would be reasonable to pass the cost of new network equipment on to those who wished to make use of those features.

Of those reasons, only (b) is truly ugly. (c) is obviously justifiable and actually a good thing. There are situations where (a) would be justified as well.

Current flat rate billing is grossly unfair to people whose email checking is slowed by file traders. Both are paying the same rate for vastly different traffic and vastly different effects on the network.

Although file traders have the most significant impact, the protocols used are tolerant of lost packets and congestion. Voip and other real time protocols are not. Therefore if an ISP is experiencing congestion the users that will suffer most are the Voip users. If the ISP has to add capacity so that Voip users have good quality connections then why should the email user or even the file trader have to foot the bill?

For reference I developed a destination sensitive Internet billing system for an international ISP and data center operator (now gone) and had a paper published on how 95th percentile billing (the most common type of commercial Internet billing) works and how the system can be manipulated. I claim to know a little bit about Internet billing (and everyone knows a little knowlege can be dangerous :) ).



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This is total bullshit!! The ISP's ALREADY charge for using thier service!! WHo's
It wouldn't be too difficult for a VoIP provider to create fake servers offshore,
Vonage is already preparing to fight the so-called VoIP Price Blocking
I would like to say that I am not against ISPs charging a premium to allow you to use
Why, if I might ask? I'm already paying for the broadband ISP service, and the provider
If the ISPs are going to charge users for usage, they probably should start with
Just so. I see no justification for an ISP to charge more for VoIP, and doing so would
Thanks for the reply. I certainly don't disagree that the terms of service

scerruti posted "I would like to say that I am not against ISPs charging a premium to allow you to use" on 09/17/2005

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