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Vonage I went on the assumtion that someone in the NSA knew Achmed was a terrorist. As far
I went on the assumtion that someone in the NSA knew Achmed was a terrorist. As far as both parties being in the USA... thats fine with me too, if either one or both of the parties are known sworn enemies of the the United States... Say a Sami Al-Arian type is regularly conversing with a Timothy McVeigh type. Both of them eventually turned out to be sworn enemies of the country. Had someone paid a little closer attention to McVeigh, perhaps another building may still be standing!
And your point is? What is so different about things now? These people are living among us, though maybe one could change the "RIGHT IN OUR HOMES" line to RIGHT IN OUR HOMELAND.
I agree that there has to be a system of checks and balances. There are areas of the of our lives the government has no business being involved in, but this is a very serious matter. Our enemy does not come from one particular country, and does not wear a uniform. It is not like 230 years ago when we knew who we were fighting, or like 65 years ago, or even like the cold war days when we could put a name on our enemies. These parasites are lurking everywhere, just waiting for their next chance to strike. If the NSA can stop just one attack by putting a couple of phone numbers together, more power to them. If I find out that they have me on a watch list because I talk to my brother for hours on end at night, and they don't like our views on school vouchers, then we have a problem! I have heard of no incident when someone has been harmed by the current practice. No complaints have been publicized! The left wing media would be all over such a story in a heartbeat!
It is a pleasure debating you kamnet... you are obviously an intelligent individual, and while our views are very different, you can make your point without resorting to name calling and personal attacks. I find that refreshing!
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mbkerk posted "I went on the assumtion that someone in the NSA knew Achmed was a terrorist. As far" on 05/16/2006 |
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