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Vonage I wasn't a member of this forum previously, but I work in communications and felt
I wasn't a member of this forum previously, but I work in communications and felt compelled to add some information some of you may not be aware of.
Comcasts' product isn't officially available in most markets, so there are many unknowns about their service. You could call it a competing product, but there are a few important distinctions that make it worth a second look. At a glance, the price looks higher, and that's where most people quit looking. Obviously, if you purchast Vonage, you still need an ISP. Adding the price of high speed internet suddenly makes the two products comparable in price.
In the case of traditional Voip providers like Vonage, voice packets travel over the public internet and are subject to the reliability of the networks over which they travel, although voice packets on most systems do receive a higher priority than other data packets. With the Comcast product, voice packets travel over their private broadband network, which is far more reliable and Comcast must take responsibility for their own Qos. With Vonage and others, the responsibility for the quality of calls doesn't always reside with the provider, but with the various networks over which the calls travel. Even if a Comcast customer was to call a non-Comcast customer, the call travels on their network to the hub nearest the recipient, where it the must hop onto the PSTN.
As for Comcast having a monopoly, I guess it depends on how far one wishes to stretch the definition of a monopoly. Clearly, they are the only provider in most areas they provide service. But I believe a monopoly means no one else is allowed to provide that same service in that same area, which certainly is not the case. It's called an over-build, and other providers are welcome to come in and lay their own lines, provide their competing services, etc. And that's where the problem is. Networks like Comcast, Time Warner, and others aren't required to share their bandwidth (and I don't believe they should be). So over-building is cost-prohibitive, and that's why you really don't see it. Is that a monopoly? I guess it's a matter of opinion. I would like to see competition bring down prices, but how can that happen?
Adelphia wasn't aquired by Comcast as a whole, but was split up among a few of the major providers - which may be Comcast in your area.
And Comcast blocking Vonage packets? Wow. Study all the latency and packet loss you wish, concoct all the ridiculous conspiracy theories you can. When you're ready to confront the truth, here it is: you have either a simple wiring problem in your home, or your service provider has a problem on their network. Either of which can be easily repaired. Sorry, it's not a conspiracy. Voip quality is inherently going to be better coming from a broadband provider, there is no foundation for adding more problems to the traditional Voip services.
You can take off your tinfoil hats now, they're not coming to get you. Really.
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• ok, thank you CyberCSI for ur link. It seems you're very knowledgeable about networking
• I'm seeing the exact same thing. Seems to be losing that last hop before it gets
• And here we go again............
• I am no believer in conspiracies, but having seen two episodes of Vonage issues
• Well, Comcast is doing their own VoIP service in some areas now.... considering
• (As I shudder contemplating the impending buy out of my most excellent ISP by Comcast)...
I
• I know ISPs like to provide that "bandwidth hog" argument, but in reality, does
• Well, you're right of course, it's a low use compared to those... except that it
• I will call my local comcast now and ask if they offer voip.. as they did not in my
• somethings is going on...
Before when I called comcast I always got the same
JBtech01 posted "I wasn't a member of this forum previously, but I work in communications and felt" on 03/02/2006 |
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