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Scarborough, Onta
rio
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You can recollect
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The devices are
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Hi these are most
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their
configuration
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Has anyone setup a
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Vonage I understand you are passionate about this issue, but I don't understand you solution.



I understand you are passionate about this issue, but I don't understand you solution.

What are you asking legislators to do?

Let's look at Cringley's claim. ISPs are going to tag packets for their service in such a way as to give their service priority. In order for them to succeed they will have to tag packets in the customer's home so as not to be competing with the customer's gaming or file sharing.

Unfortunately for them this means they have to run a separate virtual or physical line to the customer's premise. These tagged packets can not be transmitted through your current broadband modem. If they were the customer could tag any packet they wanted and prioritize all of their traffic.

By the way, this is how DigitialVoice from the cable companies currently works. They provide a separate connection for their voice terminal that is not shared even if you have broadband.

Once the traffic hits their main network fabric then the tagged traffic and the untagged traffic are mixed. However, rarely is this the point of congestion. Congestion typically occurs on your DSL line or local cable segment or it occurs at the switches between carriers networks. Since this packet tagging is inside single ISPs at this point the tagging won't help with this situation either.

So we get back to Cringley's claim,

If they do this they are going to break more than Voip. They are going to make online gaming work more slowly and the ripple effects get worse. Streaming video and audio will break and real-time stock quotes will slow down.

The major money on the Internet is being made from pornography, gambling and stock trading. ISPs will lose customers faster than rats off a sinking ship if you mess with those services and someone will step in to provide them service.

Here's the problem: if you throttle your network so that packets start getting dropped you actually increase network traffic which causes more packets to get dropped, resulting in a death spiral for the entire network, including prioritized packets.

The reason for this is that if a TCP packet gets dropped then a request for a retransmission gets sent and then the packet gets sent again. So dropping 1 packet results in at least 2 more. In some cases the protocol will request you resend all of the packets from the dropped packet forward. In that case you might be seeing a dozen packets added for every dropped packet. Control over the network capacity would have to be incredibly fine grained, location sensitive and very dynamic. I don't think that it is technically possible to do this. Besides, any good network engineer is going to be screaming their heads off if they aren't maintaining a decent amount of unused capacity most of the time.

Possible solutions:

You could ban packet tagging, however IP packet prioritization is a good thing that once it is implemented on the backbone is going to be a boon for voice/video protocols. It is the only way we are going to guarantee and measure quality of service in the long term.

You could require the ISPs to allow any packet to be prioritized. But then everyone will prioritize all of their packets and prioritization will be worthless.



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This is absurd. Cringley's opinion piece is full of holes and the analogy of the
I have just read the article FCC to Dress Naked DSL . Some would point out that this
scerruti posted: . Saying that something is flawed, and proving it are
First I look at all the taxes and fees that are included in my landline phone bill.
This is absurd. Cringley's opinion piece is full of holes and the analogy of the
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I will be writing letters and e-mails to both
Poppa wrote: scerruti replied Please understand that analogies

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