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Vonage Give Bell sometime, you'll learn to hate them. With Bell, (And I'll say for Rogers

Give Bell sometime, you'll learn to hate them. With Bell, (And I'll say for Rogers Wireless) they bend over backwards for their new customers but do fuck all for existing customers (not less you threaten to cancel as I got some pretty good deals with my cell phone when i told them I'd pay the $20/month left in my contract to quit). My mother in law has Bell Sympatico (under my name) and when I told Bell I would quit and go with Primus high speed (because of their $19.99 for 5 months 3mb/s) Bell said they'd give me their 3mbs for 6 months at $19.99 no contract.

My point is, all these companies are the same. You'll fall in love with them in the beginning because they actually bend-over-backwards to get you a customer, then fail miserably to meet the same level in customer service when you've been with them awhile.

Now to respond to what you were saying, I dont think Bell is advertising Nakid DSL. You have to call and inquire about it to get it. I think a few people in this forum have it. And when you call, the person you are speaking to might not know much about it or know that it exist at all but dont give up because of it, either ask them to speak to some supervisor, or call back and speak to someone else who will finally know about it and offer it to you. You can also do like I said above and say that you'll have to goto rogers if they can't do something for you.

Next point. I have Rogers Extreme (5mb/sec) and I live in an apartment building. I haven't experience any fluxuations in the speed. I seem to always have a constant rate, and its pretty damn good. I think those sayings about some points during the day with everyone using it, will effect your speed is pretty much a thing of the past. Bell sympatico used to make their commercials saying how cable high speed is like that, and I believe now they were forced not to advertise this anymore.

As for your bundles. I believe if you have to go on a 2 year contract to bundle up your services. And if this is true for you, I'd would think twice about signing a contract with these companies. If yer looking to make the most out of your money, while still maintaining good service, I suggest the following:
* Get Bell Sympatico (make sure they dont get you on a contract). I assume you already have a Bell Landline
* Then Keep Inquiring about Naked DSL. Make threats about cancelling and going to rogers until you do get it. I dont know for sure as I dont have it, but I believe its out there. There should be people in this forum who have it.
* Choose a Voip. I've been in these forums for about 3-4 months before I went Voip. Though Vonage seems to be the company to go for (repretationwise). I dont think they are the cheapest. For 1, if you dont buy the adaptor at a store, you will be charged a $40 Activation fee, + $20 shipping. Their unlimited North America plan is kinda high ($39.99). If I were to go with Vonage, I'd stay with the $19.99 500 minute plan. because you can still use another 300 or so minutes before you are charged $39.99. Getting virtual lines with them are also a bit pricey ($7.99). But if you do want an unlimited plan but want somethign cheaper than $40. Try Primus - Talkbroadband. They have unlimited north america for $29.99. No Activation or shipping fee. If you purchase their $99 adaptor, you save $4/month, but you have to purchase it. You can get virtual lines for $4.99, but you can only get numbers for 10 selected canadian cities. The company I have chosen is Yak - Worldcity. I choose their $18.99 600 minute (Canada/US) plan. I'm able to choose numbers anywhere Canada/US. virtual numbers at $2.99. No Activation/Shipping fees. Free incoming calls. 2cents/minute if you go over. The only thing bad with them is its a 1 year contract after the 30 day trial. After the year of service, the adaptor is yours to keep. $70 early termination fee. I've been with them for almost 2 months, and the servie is great. their unlimited North America plan is $35, but I see 600 minutes is more than enough especially if incoming calls are free.
* So in all. To have the best value for yer money. Go Sympatico Naked DSL. Try to get it for $19.99 (the 3mb/s).. Yak for $18.99 (600 outgoing minutes). And you should be good. so you baslically have your Phone + Longdistance + Internet for $40.

Aight thats it, sorry about the long email.

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Any Bell DSL customers manage to disconnect their phoneline?

Hi, There was a prior discussion of disconnecting local phone service while
Do you know if the people who've done it in BC were using Bell and not another landline/DSL
Anyone who does this should make it very clear to the Bell CSRs that there is a particular
What if you have your DSL connection wholesale through another provider? I currently
I tried unbundling the voice from sympatico, and was told no go. The made up
Its possbile. Through some extenuating circumstances, my phone service was
Two people that I work with tell me that Rogers high speed internet goes down quite
I have been with Rogers for my ISP for prolly 3 yrs now, and I don't think it's ever
I'll second what dabones said. My rogers service has been rock solid so far. If
It appears as though people outside of the city of Ottawa are not having downtime

djino posted "Give Bell sometime, you'll learn to hate them. With Bell, (And I'll say for Rogers" on 06/12/2005

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