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Vonage BitTorrent/P2P affects Vonage in possibly two ways, depending on your configuration. 1.





BitTorrent/P2P affects Vonage in possibly two ways, depending on your configuration.

1. (for everyone): Vonage wants to consume 30-90 kbps each way for every line that is currently active. BitTorrent, depending on how many connections are active, how many leeches are hanging off you at any one time, etc, may consume any amount of bandwidth up to your entire Internet connection.

Without some way of "shaping" your traffic, basically traffic gets blocked up at your router. Some of your BitTorrent data gets delayed, and that just slows down BitTorrent, so that's OK. Some of your Vonage traffic gets delayed, and by the time the data arrives at its destination, it's already too late to incorporate it into the voice others hear, so it becomes a "discarded packet". That's not OK.

Since the Vonage routers lack the ability to tune their QoS to your connection speed (unlike many other routers), the QoS is basically useless unless you get really lucky and it somehow manages to guess at your true upstream speed, so your only real options are to get a router that DOES support QoS properly, or throttle your BitTorrents to always reserve enough bandwidth for Vonage.

2. (for users of Vonage routers, and some other routers). Certain consumer router have poorly-chosen Networking defaults. BitTorrent makes LOTS AND LOTS of connections, constantly. Some of these routers overload for various reasons, and crash under the load.

Specific example is Vonage/Linksys routers, which attempt to retain information about all "idle but not cleanly disconnected" TCP/IP connections for FIVE DAYS. Since the router table in these units is generally about 2,000 connections, and BitTorrent is constantly generating "idle but not cleanly disconnected" connections, the table gets filled up in about a day - sometimes less, sometimes more - depending on how active your Torrents are. When the router table fills up, the router does not allow any new connections to be made. Result: basically, you have to restart the router in order to make any new connections.


As to Vonage's consumption of bandwidth - the Vonage router sends a quick "chirp" out to Vonage about once every 30 seconds or so to let Vonage know it's still there, from what I've seen on my activity lights. So it consumes very little bandwidth.

Outgoing: When you pick up the phone, it is still not consuming much bandwidth, as dial tone is locally generated. As you dial the phone, no bandwidth. As soon as you dial the last number, Vonage starts ringing the remote side. Once the other end picks up, the Vonage router makes a SIP connection to Vonage, is issued a random port, and starts firing data back and forth at whatever your speed is. Delays in this session creation can cause delays in the other end hearing you start to talk.

Incoming: Vonage sends a SIP packet to your router, which then rings your phones. When you pick up the line, the router and Vonage negotiate a port and start connecting (like above).

So, unless you are in a call or accepting a new firmware update or something, Vonage should be consuming VERY little bandwidth.



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More Confusion...Please help me to understand...bit torrent


Think of bandwidth as a water pipe. Both bit torrent and Vonage as water. If you
This came up in another thread and I thought it was off topic so I'll ask over here.
All I know is if you have a QoS enabled router bittorrent will not affect your telephone
Thanks for the info, you touched on some good things, but detail please! 1.
Very simply - cost. It's not cheap to make a device capable of doing true QoS. I'm
BitTorrent has been running with NO throttling on my 3000 down / 256 up connection,
Thanks for the infos, So moral is, ya just have to keep it "semi-junk", I'm
Last night my DVR only recorded part of CSI. So I am at this moment downloading it
Understand that QoS will probably not help out with test calls from the same computer

NateHoy posted "BitTorrent/P2P affects Vonage in possibly two ways, depending on your configuration. 1." on 01/18/2006

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