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As Steve said, you will not just get one for free from Vonage unless you're still within your 30-day trial - which you're not if your router is 2 years old... :wink:

Based on my recent experience, you would probably be wise to avoid a Voip router (like the D-Link VWR or Linksys WRTP54) since they can have serious issues (depending on your needs).

If interested, see my last post (and the one below it) here:

http://www.vonage-forum.com/ftopic17439.html

and the discussion here:

http://www.vonage-forum.com/ftopic17667.html

If you do go the separate router and PA route, however, it's probably going to be more expensive than a combo device (though likely more reliable).

A Linksys PAP2 cost $60 at Best Buy today - though it can be found cheaper online (like $53 at Buy.com). A D-Link VTA is [I believe] $50 from Vonage - at least that's what their web site implies. Amazon.com wants $50 too. Supposedly both PA's are good, but the Linksys PAP2 is now into its second generation and has a history of reliability (whereas the D-Link is still new).

As for [non-VoIP] routers, there are certainly lots of options - but I only recommend the Linksys WRTP54G L . As far as new Linksys routers go, this is the only model which still lets you use third-party firmware (which can make a big difference depending on your needs). A WRT54GL will run about $60 and many people seem to feel that WRT54G< whatever > routers are the best general consumer routers around. But even if you went another way, you can still figure you'll stay in the $60 neighborhood.

I realize you don't want a wireless router, but you can certainly turn off the wireless on any WRT54G-series routers - and they will provide QoS if you really need or want it. With the third-party firmware features, there may be a real benefit to this option.

I'm not aware of any wired-only routers with support for 3rd party firmware, but if all you care about is QoS perhaps someone else can recommend something. However, when looking at the Linksys BEFSR x wired line, like the $40 BEFSR41 , the downloadable manuals do show these support QoS. Not 3rd party firmware though.

So you'd be looking at $90-$120 to get both devices - with lots of give and take depending on your preferences, what's available, etc.

Now with all of that said, you do have another option...

Since your problem is only with the "router" functionality, you could just buy a new non-VoIP router and connect the RT31P2 behind it. Then you use the new router as a router and use the RT31P2 for the phone lines only. This will certainly work. And it will save you money. And it will save you the hassle of having to "move" your phone lines to a new device.

Take a look here to see how this works:

http://vonage.nmhoy.net/tworouters.html

It's actually very simple. You would normally just need to reset your old router to factory defaults and then turn off any wireless support. You may also need to verify it's configured to automatically obtain an IP address (though it almost certainly should be by default). Nate also recommends setting it to not block anonymous Internet requests or filter multicast (which most would by default).

Then you just configure your new router as you need it to work. Once everything is working, plug in the old router and it should just work like a PA.

There can be more to it if you need/want to use QoS, but apparently that doesn't always seem to be necessary. Nate's pages cover QoS in detail though.

Personally, I also like giving my Vonage device a static IP address - or, more accurately, a static DHCP address to make life simpler. With a Linksys WRT54G x and third-party firmware, this is possible. I just tell the router to assign 192.168.1.111 to the Vonage device MAC address. Since it still uses DHCP, I can just leave the device config with default setting of obtaining an IP automatically and not have to enter DNS's which can end up changing later.

Oh, and if you do decide to get a new PA device, just go here after hooking it all up:

http://www.vonage.com/retail_subscribe/

Log in as a "Current Customer" with your account name and pw, select "I purchased a Vonage phone adapter that I want to add to my account", then select "Move existing line(s) to a new device", enter the MAC address of the new PA device (or Voip router), and just keep following through the prompts. Your new hardware MUST be up, running, and connected. The Vonage site will report what was found, tell you what's on your old device, and ask you which line you want to move and which device and port you want it moved to. No charge. Can take a few minutes to transfer though.

I've done this twice. It only worked once. The first time, I had to call support after the web process failed during the last step with some error. Took them 10 minutes to do it. Just have the MAC handy if you call.

And if the phone light doesn't come on within 15 minutes of the transfer, power cycle the new device. I had to do that to...



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I am a current Vonage Subscriber. I currently use a RT31P2 router. It's now two
They won't just give you one, but you can certainly go out and buy one. Then you go
0Voltage, Thx for the info. Good stuff. I really don't need a seperate PA right
A valid concern. According to Wikipedia , the "projected" release date for N is
Did some research today on the Linksys third party software. Quite interesting.

0Voltage posted "As Steve said, you will not just get one for free from Vonage unless you're still" on 12/14/2006

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