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Vonage Alas, you can't infringe marketing. Maybe trade dress or trademarks, but not






Alas, you can't infringe marketing. Maybe trade dress or trademarks, but not "marketing".

Vonage has no IP of its own, so others are free to copy the entire concept and not pay Vonage a penny. Are you beginning to see the problem with Vonage? There is no barrier to entry for competitors. So Vonage has to compete on price, service, and advertsing.

So far, the advertising is keeping the customers coming in, but others are undercutting on price. As for service, well, we all have experiences there.

And since Vonage has no IP of its own, it is vulnerable to IP infirngment claims of others. Making the decision NOT to file for Patents was a bad mistake on the part of Vonage. When Vonage was formed, "method of doign business" patents were being granted routinely (harder to do today). Several aspects of Vonage's business model, and undoubedly some technical issues could have been Patented. These could have been used defensively by Vonage to fend off an attack by a telco.

Too bad that didn't happen. And now it is far too late.



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Verizon Patents - Clear proof of prior art from 1995


This is reprinted from: The comp.dcom.telecom newsgroup dated Sep 22 1995,
I refer to the below link, worth the read. http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/?p=1548
Actually, yes, you are right. Amateur radio operators have been doing that for
Everyone knows that Verizon did not invent VOIP, fiber optic technology, or the
Who's copying who?? Verizon Voice Wing Website is infringing on Vonage's Marketing,
Vonage developed a service using off-the-shelf tecnology. Verizon didn't
here's my issue with this patent fight in court. the 3com patent and verizon
I knew an Examiner who used to cite science fiction stories as "prior art" to Patent

robertplattbell posted "Alas, you can't infringe marketing. Maybe trade dress or trademarks, but not" on 09/27/2007

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